America's top infectious disease expert told Science magazine in an interview that Trump listens "even though we disagree on some things".
The White House's coronavirus task force is scheduled to hold a briefing Tuesday around 5:30 p.m. ET.
"The way it happened", Fauci explained, "is that after he made that statement [suggesting China could have revealed the discovery of the virus months earlier], I told the appropriate people, it doesn't comport, because two or three months earlier would have been September", before the first cases even appeared.
Cohen also asked Fauci about a moment during a press conference when Trump referred to the conspiracy theory of a "Deep State" against him.
Although Trump and Vice President Mike Pence explained that Fauci was attending a meeting of the coronavirus task force, to many observers, his exclusion from the briefing represented yet another indication of the White House's displeasure.
Under this construction, life might shift away from keeping everyone apart to permitting more people to leave their homes and return to work. The unemployment rate would surge to 12.8% - the highest level ever in data that go back to the 1940s.
At the same time, as Pence described it, the national response would shift from one based on dispersing everyone to defending the elderly, although it isn't clear whether public health officials agree or what new steps that might require.
As many public health officials call for stricter, not looser restrictions on public interactions, Trump said he was already looking toward easing the advisories that have sidelined workers, shuttered schools and led to a widespread economic slowdown.
It isn't clear what metrics the White House might use when making that assessment, and the challenge of moving out of this isolation phase is compounded by the unequal affliction of the coronavirus across the country. A number of states, including California and NY, have issued "stay at home" orders and temporarily shuttered non-essential businesses.
After initially going along with the social distancing recommendations of the medical experts on his coronavirus task force, and praising the decisions of governors in states that had instituted lockdowns to keep COVID-19 infections from worsening, Trump signaled a new approach in a Sunday night tweet.
The White House has acknowledged that numerous important upcoming decisions about the pandemic belong to governors or local officials.
Earlier, Trump said his administration would not allow the cure for COVID-19, that is, an extended shutdown, be worse than the problem itself.
Less than a half-hour later, Trump even made reference on social media to Fauci's meme-worthy "facepalm" at a White House coronavirus task force briefing on Friday, sharing a post by a Twitter user who declared, "Dr. Fauci is all of us".
"If it were up to the doctors, they'd say let's shut down the entire world", said Trump.
The death calculus has always been part of the coronavirus story, just as it was during the 2002 outbreak of the SARS virus that killed 774 people around the world, the 2009 H1N1 pandemic that killed at least 18,036 people or the 2013 Ebola outbreak in West Africa that killed 11,323.
"Wouldn't it be great to have all of the churches full?"
"I'm not saying it ends at that time".
The comments from Cheney, who represents the at-large US House seat in Wyoming, came as Trump considers lifting some guidelines meant to protect the public from the virus.
The president dislikes wind turbines after a dispute over the prospect that they might be installed near a golf course he owns in Scotland, and Trump suggested on Tuesday that Democratic support for wind energy might have caused him to reject some of the proposals in the bill. They're really, fundamentally, at the core, when you look at things, there are not differences.
Trump said in his second interview on Fox that he wasn't concerned about the costs associated with what could be a $2 trillion stimulus package because he considered that to be an investment. He has repeatedly emphasized that halting the outbreak is needed so that growth can resume as companies feel comfortable hiring and consumers ramp up spending. "It's loaded to save corporations", he said, specifically mentioning Boeing.
"Let's get back to work, let's get back to living, let's be smart about it, and those of us who are 70-plus, we'll take care of ourselves".