Lt. Col. Vindman likely be removed from White House

National Sec Adviser: Top Impeachment Probe Witness Will Be Removed From WH Council

Impeachment inquiry: Alexander Vindman, Official who testified against Donald Trump "still detailed" to National Security Council

Vindman, now detailed to the White House National Security Council, has been targeted by Trump following his October 29 congressional testimony.

Vindman is the Ukraine specialist at the White House's National Security Council who was on the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymr Zelenskiy.

He said Vindman or any other whistleblower "shouldn't have any fear of retaliation", according to a transcript of the exchange released by online publication Defense One.

Ratcliffe asked Vindman in the testimony, "A week following you listening in on a phone call with the President of the United States making a request of the Ukrainian Government to assist in ongoing investigations, a member of his National Security Council subsequently told Ukrainian officials to do just the opposite and to ignore his request and stay out of USA politics".

"This was about getting a White House meeting", Vindman said in his testimony.

The question about the duration of Vindman's detail on the NSC arose when CBS News' "Face the Nation" host Margaret Brennan asked national security adviser Robert O'Brien whether Vindman would continue to serve on the NSC, even though he had criticized the president when he was interviewed by Congress in October.

"Vindman is still detailed to NSC". We are not aware of any changes in his status. "I think the National Security Council staff needs to shrink and focus on coordinating between the departments", Esper said.

National security adviser Robert O'Brien in Bangkok on November 4, 2019.

White House press secretary Stephanie Gresham similarly confirmed to the Washington Examiner that Vindman was still employed on the NSC.

"Just to button that up, though".

When Brennan asked O'Brien to confirm that the decision is not retaliation against Vindman, whom Trump has baselessly accused of being a "Never Trumper", the national security adviser's response was that he personally had never retaliated against anyone.

She interrupted, asking, "But his time is coming to an end?"

"There will be a point for everybody. that their detail will come to an end".

"And so we're grateful that we can have these detailees come in, and they'll come spend the year-a year or, you know, maybe a little bit more at the White House and then they'll go back to their agency".

O'Brien has said he wants to bring the size of the White House agency down to 117 policy advisers from its current strength of about 178.

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